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If I decide not to get health insurance the government is going to fine me $2,500 every year.

Lets reform OURS & NOT fall under socialism! One of the primary issues I take with Obama’s health-care plan is that this kind of wealth transfer was never envisioned by the Constitution. The Bill of Rights guarantees that we should be able to live our lives relatively free from government interference. I should be free to live my life without health insurance and not receiving a $2,500 fine from the government if I so choose. I wonder if there are any valid Constitutional arguments to be made here. This is more then just an income tax, this is something entirely different. The founders never expected our federal government to go to this kind of extent or to wield this much power over it’s citizenry.

Please take a minute to sign this petition keeping Government control OUT of healthcare.

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Here are many of the 1017 page Health Care Bill "America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009

"Clauses interpreted by a man named Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) who is reading it and has been posting on Twitter his findings. This is from his postings (Note: All comments are Fleckman’s) SEC underlined are his interpretations.

If his interpretations are right it is horrifying and America takes another blow in it's fight for freedom!


SEC. 102 - Outlaws private insurance by forbidding enrollment after HR 3200 is passed into law.


H.R. 3200 states:


SEC. 102. PROTECTING THE CHOICE TO KEEP CURRENT COVERAGE.


(a) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE DEFINED.—Subject to the succeeding provisions of 4 this section, for purposes of establishing acceptable coverage under this division, the term ‘‘grandfathered health insurance coverage’’ means individual health insurance coverage that is offered and in force and effect before the first day of Y1 if the following conditions are met:



(1) LIMITATIONONNEWENROLLMENT.—


(A) INGENERAL.—Except as provided in this paragraph, the individual health insurance issuer offering such coverage does not enroll any individual in such coverage if the first ef-14

fective date of coverage is on or after the first day of Y1.


(B) DEPENDENT COVERAGE PERMITTED.—Subparagraph (A) shall not affect the subsequent enrollment of a dependent of an individual who is covered as of such first day.


(2) LIMITATION ON CHANGES IN TERMS OR CONDITIONS.—


(A) Subject to paragraph (3) and except as required by law, the issuer does not change any of its terms or conditions, including benefits and cost-sharing, from those in effect as of the day before the first day of Y1.



SEC. 122 - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!


H.R. 3200 states:


SEC. 122. ESSENTIAL BENEFITS PACKAGE DEFINED.


(2) ANNUAL LIMITATION-


(A) ANNUAL LIMITATION- The cost-sharing incurred under the essential benefits package with respect to an individual (or family) for a year does not exceed the applicable level specified in subparagraph (B).


(B) APPLICABLE LEVEL- The applicable level specified in this subparagraph for Y1 is $5,000 for an individual and $10,000 for a family. Such levels shall be increased (rounded to the nearest $100) for each subsequent year by the annual percentage increase in the Consumer Price Index (United States city average) applicable to such year.


(C) USE OF COPAYMENTS- In establishing cost-sharing levels for basic, enhanced, and premium plans under this subsection, the Secretary shall, to the maximum extent possible, use only copayments and not coinsurance.



SEC. 123 - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get


H.R. 3200 States:


SEC. 123. HEALTH BENEFITS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.


(a) ESTABLISHMENT.— IN GENERAL.—There is established a private-public advisory committee which shall be a panel of medical and other experts to be known as the Health Benefits Advisory Committee to recommend covered benefits and essential, enhanced, and premium plans.



SEC. 142 - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You have no choice!


SEC. 142 DUTIES AND AUTHORITY OF COMMISSIONER


(a) Duties- The Commissioner is responsible for carrying out the following functions under this division:


(1) QUALIFIED PLAN STANDARDS- The establishment of qualified health benefits plan standards under this title, including the enforcement of such standards in coordination with State insurance regulators and the Secretaries of Labor and the Treasury.


(2) HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE- The establishment and operation of a Health Insurance Exchange under subtitle A of title II.


(3) INDIVIDUAL AFFORDABILITY CREDITS- The administration of individual affordability credits under subtitle C of title II, including determination of eligibility for such credits.


(4) ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONS- Such additional functions as may be specified in this division.



SEC. 152 - HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, ILLEGAL or otherwise.


H.R. 3200 states:


SEC. 152. PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION IN HEALTH CARE.


(a) In General- Except as otherwise explicitly permitted by this Act and by subsequent regulations consistent with this Act, all health care and related services (including insurance coverage and public health activities) covered by this Act shall be provided without regard to personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services.


(b) Implementation- To implement the requirement set forth in subsection (a), the Secretary of Health and Human Services shall, not later than 18 months after the date of the enactment of this Act, promulgate such regulations as are necessary or appropriate to insure that all health care and related services (including insurance coverage and public health activities) covered by this Act are provided (whether directly or through contractual, licensing, or other arrangements) without regard to personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services.



SEC. 163. - Gov't will have real-time access to individuals' finances and a national ID health card will be issued- Government will have DIRECT access to your BANK ACCOUNTS for electronic funds transfer. This means the government can go in and take your money right out of your bank account.


H.R. 3200 states:


SEC. 163. ADMINISTRATIVE SIMPLIFICATION.


(a) Standardizing Electronic Administrative Transactions-


(1) IN GENERAL- Part C of title XI of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1320d et seq.) is amended by inserting after section 1173 the following new section:


(D) enable the real-time (or near real-time) determination of an individual's financial responsibility at the point of service and, to the extent possible, prior to service, including whether the individual is eligible for a specific service with a specific physician at a specific facility, which may include utilization of a machine-readable health plan beneficiary identification card;


(E) enable, where feasible, near real-time adjudication of claims;



SEC. 201. - Government is creating an HC Exchange to bring private HC plans under Government control.


H.R. 3200 states:


SEC. 201. ESTABLISHMENT OF HEALTH INSURANCE EXCHANGE; OUTLINE OF DUTIES; DEFINITIONS.


(a) Establishment- There is established within the Health Choices Administration and under the direction of the Commissioner a Health Insurance Exchange in order to facilitate access of individuals and employers, through a transparent process, to a variety of choices of affordable, quality health insurance coverage, including a public health insurance option.


(b) Outline of Duties of Commissioner- In accordance with this subtitle and in coordination with appropriate Federal and State officials as provided under section 143(b), the Commissioner shall--


(1) under section 204 establish standards for, accept bids from, and negotiate and enter into contracts with, QHBP offering entities for the offering of health benefits plans through the Health Insurance Exchange, with different levels of benefits required under section 203, and including with respect to oversight and enforcement;


(2) under section 205 facilitate outreach and enrollment in such plans of Exchange-eligible individuals and employers described in section 202; and


(3) conduct such activities related to the Health Insurance Exchange as required, including establishment of a risk pooling mechanism under section 206 and consumer protections under subtitle D of title I.


(c) Exchange-participating Health Benefits Plan Defined- In this division, the term `Exchange-participating health benefits plan' means a qualified health benefits plan that is offered through the Health Insurance Exchange.

(ci)



SEC. 203. – Government mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the Exchange and again RATIONS health care.


H.R. 3200 States:


SEC. 203. BENEFITS PACKAGE LEVELS.


(a) In General- The Commissioner shall specify the benefits to be made available under Exchange-participating health benefits plans during each plan year, consistent with subtitle C of title I and this section.


(b) Limitation on Health Benefits Plans Offered by Offering Entities- The Commissioner may not enter into a contract with a QHBP offering entity under section 204(c) for the offering of an Exchange-participating health benefits plan in a service area unless the following requirements are met:


(1) REQUIRED OFFERING OF BASIC PLAN- The entity offers only one basic plan for such service area.


(2) OPTIONAL OFFERING OF ENHANCED PLAN- If and only if the entity offers a basic plan for such service area, the entity may offer one enhanced plan for such area.


(3) OPTIONAL OFFERING OF PREMIUM PLAN- If and only if the entity offers an enhanced plan for such service area, the entity may offer one premium plan for such area.


(4) OPTIONAL OFFERING OF PREMIUM-PLUS PLANS- If and only if the entity offers a premium plan for such service area, the entity may offer one or more premium-plus plans for such area.



SEC. 205. - The Government will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Government HC plan AND Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice!


H.R. 3200 States:


SEC. 205. OUTREACH AND ENROLLMENT OF EXCHANGE-ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS AND EMPLOYERS IN EXCHANGE-PARTICIPATING HEALTH BENEFITS PLAN.


(A) IN GENERAL-


(1) OUTREACH- The Commissioner shall conduct outreach activities consistent with subsection (c), including through use of appropriate entities as described in paragraph (4) of such subsection, to inform and educate individuals and employers about the Health Insurance Exchange and Exchange-participating health benefits plan options. Such outreach shall include outreach specific to vulnerable populations, such as children, individuals with disabilities, individuals with mental illness, and individuals with other cognitive impairments.


(3) AUTOMATIC ENROLLMENT FOR NON-MEDICAID ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS-


(A) IN GENERAL- The Commissioner shall provide for a process under which individuals who are Exchange-eligible individuals described in subparagraph (B) are automatically enrolled under an appropriate Exchange-participating health benefits plan. Such process may involve a random assignment or some other form of assignment that takes into account the health care providers used by the individual involved or such other relevant factors as the Commissioner may specify.


(3) AUTOMATIC ENROLLMENT OF MEDICAID ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS INTO MEDICAID- The Commissioner shall provide for a process under which an individual who is described in section 202(d)(3) and has not elected to enroll in an Exchange-participating health benefits plan is automatically enrolled under Medicaid.



SEC. 223. - No company can sue the GOVERNMENT on price fixing! No “judicial review” against Government Monopoly!!


H.R. 3200 States:


SEC. 223. PAYMENT RATES FOR ITEMS AND SERVICES


(f) Limitations on Review- There shall be no administrative or judicial review of a payment rate or methodology established under this section or under section 224.



SEC. 225. – Doctors/ AMA – The Government will tell YOU what you can make.


H.R. 3200 States:


SEC. 225. PROVIDER PARTICIPATION


(a) In General- The Secretary shall establish conditions of participation for health care providers under the public health insurance option.


(b) Licensure or Certification- The Secretary shall not allow a health care provider to participate in the public health insurance option unless such provider is appropriately licensed or certified under State law.


(c) Payment Terms for Providers-


(1) PHYSICIANS- The Secretary shall provide for the annual participation of physicians under the public health insurance option, for which payment may be made for services furnished during the year, in one of 2 classes:


(A) PREFERRED PHYSICIANS- Those physicians who agree to accept the payment rate established under section 223 (without regard to cost-sharing) as the payment in full.


(B) PARTICIPATING, NON-PREFERRED PHYSICIANS- Those physicians who agree not to impose charges (in relation to the payment rate described in section 223 for such physicians) that exceed the ratio permitted under section 1848(g)(2)(C) of the Social Security Act.


SEC. 312. - An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan and employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families. NO CHOICE!!


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H.R. 3200 States:

SEC. 312. EMPLOYER RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS EMPLOYEE AND DEPENDENT COVERAGE


(a) In General- An employer meets the requirements of this section with respect to an employee if the following requirements are met:


(1) OFFERING OF COVERAGE- The employer offers the coverage described in section 311(1) either through an Exchange-participating health benefits plan or other than through such a plan.


(2) EMPLOYER REQUIRED CONTRIBUTION- The employer timely pays to the issuer of such coverage an amount not less than the employer required contribution specified in subsection (b) for such coverage.


(3) PROVISION OF INFORMATION- The employer provides the Health Choices Commissioner, the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, and the Secretary of the Treasury, as applicable, with such information as the Commissioner may require to ascertain compliance with the requirements of this section.


(4) AUTOENROLLMENT OF EMPLOYEES- The employer provides for autoenrollment of the employee in accordance with subsection (c).


(b) Reduction of Employee Premiums Through Minimum Employer Contribution-


(3) MINIMUM EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION FOR EMPLOYEES OTHER THAN FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES- In the case of coverage for an employee who is not a full-time employee, the amount of the minimum employer contribution under this subsection shall be a proportion (as determined in accordance with rules of the Health Choices Commissioner, the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, and the Secretary of the Treasury, as applicable) of the minimum employer contribution under this subsection with respect to a full-time employee that reflects the proportion of--


(A) the average weekly hours of employment of the employee by the employer, to


(B) the minimum weekly hours specified by the Commissioner for an employee to be a full-time employee.



SEC. 401. - ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable HC according to Government will be taxed 2.5% of income AND Any NONRESIDENT Alien is EXEMPT from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)


H.R. 3200 STATES:

SEC. 401. TAX ON INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT ACCEPTABLE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE


Subpart A--Tax on Individuals Without Acceptable Health Care Coverage


`Sec. 59B. Tax on individuals without acceptable health care coverage.


`SEC. 59B. TAX ON INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT ACCEPTABLE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE.


`(a) Tax Imposed- In the case of any individual who does not meet the requirements of subsection (d) at any time during the taxable year, there is hereby imposed a tax equal to 2.5 percent of the excess of--


(1) the taxpayer's modified adjusted gross income for the taxable year, over


(2) the amount of gross income specified in section 6012(a)(1) with respect to the taxpayer.


(c) Exceptions-


(2) NONRESIDENT ALIENS- Subsection (a) shall not apply to any individual who is a nonresident alien.



SEC. 1122. - Government sets value of Doctor’s time, professional judgment, etc. Literally value of humans.


H.R. 3200 STATES:


SEC. 1122. MISVALUED CODES UNDER THE PHYSICIAN FEE SCHEDULE.


(a) In General- Section 1848(c)(2) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395w-4(c)(2)) is amended by adding at the end the following new subparagraphs:


(K) POTENTIALLY MISVALUED CODES-


(i) IN GENERAL- The Secretary shall--


(I) periodically identify services as being potentially misvalued using criteria specified in clause (ii); and


(II) review and make appropriate adjustments to the relative values established under this paragraph for services identified as being potentially misvalued under subclause (I).


(ii) IDENTIFICATION OF POTENTIALLY MISVALUED CODES- For purposes of identifying potentially misvalued services pursuant to clause (i)(I), the Secretary shall examine (as the Secretary determines to be appropriate) codes (and families of codes as appropriate) for which there has been the fastest growth; codes (and families of codes as appropriate) that have experienced substantial changes in practice expenses; codes for new technologies or services within an appropriate period (such as three years) after the relative values are initially established for such codes; multiple codes that are frequently billed in conjunction with furnishing a single service; codes with low relative values, particularly those that are often billed multiple times for a single treatment; codes which have not been subject to review since the implementation of the RBRVS (the so-called `Harvard-valued codes'); and such other codes determined to be appropriate by the Secretary.



SEC. 1141. - Federal Government regulates rental and purchase of power driven wheelchairs


H.R. 3200 STATES:


PART 3--OTHER PROVISIONS


SEC. 1141. RENTAL AND PURCHASE OF POWER-DRIVEN WHEELCHAIRS.


(a) In General- Section 1834(a)(7)(A)(iii) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395m(a)(7)(A)(iii)) is amended--


(1) in the heading, by inserting `CERTAIN COMPLEX REHABILITATIVE' after `OPTION FOR'; and


(2) by striking `power-driven wheelchair' and inserting `complex rehabilitative power-driven wheelchair recognized by the Secretary as classified within group 3 or higher'.


(b) Effective Date- The amendments made by subsection (a) shall take effect on January 1, 2011, and shall apply to power-driven wheelchairs furnished on or after such date. Such amendments shall not apply to contracts entered into under section 1847 of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395w-3) pursuant to a bid submitted under such section before October 1, 2010, under subsection (a)(1)(B)(i)(I) of such section.


SEC. 1145. – Cancer patients – welcome to rationing! You may not get that 'specilized' cancer treatment center as an option.


H.R. 3200 STATES:


SEC. 1145. TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS.


Section 1833(t) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395l(t)) is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:


(18) AUTHORIZATION OF ADJUSTMENT FOR CANCER HOSPITALS-


(A) STUDY- The Secretary shall conduct a study to determine if, under the system under this subsection, costs incurred by hospitals described in section 1886(d)(1)(B)(v) with respect to ambulatory payment classification groups exceed those costs incurred by other hospitals furnishing services under this subsection (as determined appropriate by the Secretary).


(B) AUTHORIZATION OF ADJUSTMENT- Insofar as the Secretary determines under subparagraph (A) that costs incurred by hospitals described in section 1886(d)(1)(B)(v) exceed those costs incurred by other hospitals furnishing services under this subsection, the Secretary shall provide for an appropriate adjustment under paragraph (2)(E) to reflect those higher costs effective for services furnished on or after January 1, 2011.'.


SEC. 1151. - The Government will penalize hospitals for what Government deems preventable readmissions. Doctors! Treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission? Government will penalize you.


H.R. 3200 States:


SEC. 1151. REDUCING POTENTIALLY PREVENTABLE HOSPITAL READMISSIONS.


(a) Hospitals-


(1) IN GENERAL- Section 1886 of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395ww), as amended by section 1103(a), is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:


(p) Adjustment to Hospital Payments for Excess Readmissions-


(1) IN GENERAL- With respect to payment for discharges from an applicable hospital (as defined in paragraph (5)(C)) occurring during a fiscal year beginning on or after October 1, 2011, in order to account for excess readmissions in the hospital, the Secretary shall reduce the payments that would otherwise be made to such hospital under subsection (d) (or section 1814(b)(3), as the case may be) for such a discharge by an amount equal to the product of--


(d) Physicians-


(1) STUDY- The Secretary of Health and Human Services shall conduct a study to determine how the readmissions policy described in the previous subsections could be applied to physicians.


(2) CONSIDERATIONS- In conducting the study, the Secretary shall consider approaches such as--


(A) creating a new code (or codes) and payment amount (or amounts) under the fee schedule in section 1848 of the Social Security Act (in a budget neutral manner) for services furnished by an appropriate physician who sees an individual within the first week after discharge from a hospital or critical access hospital;


(B) developing measures of rates of readmission for individuals treated by physicians;


(C) applying a payment reduction for physicians who treat the patient during the initial admission that results in a readmission; and


(D) methods for attributing payments or payment reductions to the appropriate physician or physicians.




SEC. 1156. - PROHIBITION on ownership and investment! Government tells Doctors what and how much they can own!


H.R. 3200 States:


SEC. 1156. LIMITATION ON MEDICARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE PROHIBITION ON CERTAIN PHYSICIAN REFERRALS MADE TO HOSPITALS


(B) PROHIBITION ON PHYSICIAN OWNERSHIP OR INVESTMENT- The percentage of the total value of the ownership or investment interests held in the hospital, or in an entity whose assets include the hospital, by physician owners or investors in the aggregate does not exceed such percentage as of the date of enactment of this subsection.



SEC. 1177 - Gov't will RESTRICT enrollment of special needs people


H.R. 3200 states:


SEC. 1177. EXTENSION OF AUTHORITY OF SPECIAL NEEDS PLANS TO RESTRICT ENROLLMENT.


(a) In General- Section 1859(f)(1) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395w-28(f)(1)) is amended by striking `January 1, 2011' and inserting `January 1, 2013 (or January 1, 2016, in the case of a plan described in section 1177(b)(1) of the America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009)'.


(b) Grandfathering of Certain Plans-


(1) PLANS DESCRIBED- For purposes of section 1859(f)(1) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395w-28(f)(1)), a plan described in this paragraph is a plan that had a contract with a State that had a State program to operate an integrated Medicaid-Medicare program that had been approved by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services as of January 1, 2004.


(2) ANALYSIS; REPORT- The Secretary of Health and Human Services shall provide, through a contract with an independent health services evaluation organization, for an analysis of the plans described in paragraph (1) with regard to the impact of such plans on cost, quality of care, patient satisfaction, and other subjects as specified by the Secretary. Not later than December 31, 2011, the Secretary shall submit to Congress a report on such analysis and shall include in such report such recommendations with regard to the treatment of such plans as the Secretary deems appropriate.



SEC. 1233. - Government mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life. Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory! Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death! Government mandates program for orders for end of life. The Government has a say in how your life ends! An “advance care planning consultant” will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.

“advance care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV

The Government will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order. The Government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.



H.R. 3200 Ststaes:


SEC. 1233. ADVANCE CARE PLANNING CONSULTATION


(1) Subject to paragraphs (3) and (4), the term `advance care planning consultation' means a consultation between the individual and a practitioner described in paragraph (2) regarding advance care planning, if, subject to paragraph (3), the individual involved has not had such a consultation within the last 5 years. Such consultation shall include the following:


(A) An explanation by the practitioner of advance care planning, including key questions and considerations, important steps, and suggested people to talk to.


(B) An explanation by the practitioner of advance directives, including living wills and durable powers of attorney, and their uses.


(C) An explanation by the practitioner of the role and responsibilities of a health care proxy.


(D) The provision by the practitioner of a list of national and State-specific resources to assist consumers and their families with advance care planning, including the national toll-free hotline, the advance care planning clearinghouses, and State legal service organizations (including those funded through the Older Americans Act of 1965).


(E) An explanation by the practitioner of the continuum of end-of-life services and supports available, including palliative care and hospice, and benefits for such services and supports that are available under this title.


(F)(i) Subject to clause (ii), an explanation of orders regarding life sustaining treatment or similar orders, which shall include--


(I) the reasons why the development of such an order is beneficial to the individual and the individual's family and the reasons why such an order should be updated periodically as the health of the individual changes;


(II) the information needed for an individual or legal surrogate to make informed decisions regarding the completion of such an order; and


(III) the identification of resources that an individual may use to determine the requirements of the State in which such individual resides so that the treatment wishes of that individual will be carried out if the individual is unable to communicate those wishes, including requirements regarding the designation of a surrogate decisionmaker (also known as a health care proxy).
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damnnnnn thats gay glad i get free health insurance through work Smile
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So I just came back from the Philly town hall healthcare meeting. One side my sign said, "I AM NOT YOUR ATM", & the other side said, "REFORM OUR CURRENT SYSTEM". For the most part this was peaceful, but alot of people that came to support this bill were very rude, loud, disrespectful & sometimes crazy towards people who were displaying signs against this bill. I did not see one person that was against the bill go up to anyone holding a sign supporting the bill & start bashing them. Supporters of the bill did NOT have their facts right. When I provided them with the facts "After they bashed me for holding a sign against this bill", they didn't have any replys except for bush this, palin that. Although I did meet a few intelligent liberals who I enjoyed debating with. But for the most part they were wackos. I was interviewed by www.americasright.com and was asked several questions. keep an eye out for my comments. The only angry mobs that I saw were the ones supporting this bill.

I have more to say, just don't feel like writing much now.
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Im not your atm I love it i bet ppl wher pissed and i can see you going alll out ther with ur signs cause i kno how u feel about politics steve u da man keep up the good stuff
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haha thanks. Don't get me wrong I want people to have health insurance, but I read alot of this bill & its not right for America. It doesn't give people a choice & forces every American to pay or be fined.
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Here's another scary part about the bill...

It require's that all Americans purchase health insurance. Those without coverage or whose current health insurance plans don't meet the new federal standards would face tax penalties.

There is little disagreement among liberals and conservatives that America's current health care system needs serious reform. But the Left's plan is seriously flawed.
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